Comments on: Transparency, Literacy, Interpretation, and the Enterprise http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/04/03/transparency-literacy-interpretation-and-the-enterprise/ Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:28:22 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Bill Ives http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/04/03/transparency-literacy-interpretation-and-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-5306 Bill Ives Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:22:20 +0000 http://fastforwardblog.com/2007/04/03/transparency-literacy-interpretation-and-the-enterprise/#comment-5306 Jim Thanks and great points. It is probably a mix of both with a healthy portion of illusion. It has been my experience that many managers and others do not realize that long term "control" (or should I say - influence) comes through sharing of power and information. But then I have seen that some managers are only interested in the short term effect on their person gain before they move on to something higher so lasting effects are not a concern. Look foreward to seeing you in NYC now. Bill Jim Thanks and great points. It is probably a mix of both with a healthy portion of illusion. It has been my experience that many managers and others do not realize that long term “control” (or should I say – influence) comes through sharing of power and information. But then I have seen that some managers are only interested in the short term effect on their person gain before they move on to something higher so lasting effects are not a concern. Look foreward to seeing you in NYC now. Bill

]]> By: Jim McGee http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/04/03/transparency-literacy-interpretation-and-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-5294 Jim McGee Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:53:11 +0000 http://fastforwardblog.com/2007/04/03/transparency-literacy-interpretation-and-the-enterprise/#comment-5294 No question that control is a central issue in most organizations. More often than not, however, the desire for control is reflexive, not grounded in any thought about what costs are incurred (economic and non-economic) by imposing control and whether those costs are balanced by corresponding benefits. Managers object to potential loss of control without any analysis of the degree of control that exists in their current base case. In some sense, it is a ritual objection, not a real objection. Is their objection to the loss of control or to the loss of the illusion of control? No question that control is a central issue in most organizations. More often than not, however, the desire for control is reflexive, not grounded in any thought about what costs are incurred (economic and non-economic) by imposing control and whether those costs are balanced by corresponding benefits.

Managers object to potential loss of control without any analysis of the degree of control that exists in their current base case. In some sense, it is a ritual objection, not a real objection. Is their objection to the loss of control or to the loss of the illusion of control?

]]> By: Bill Ives http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/04/03/transparency-literacy-interpretation-and-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-5184 Bill Ives Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:24:30 +0000 http://fastforwardblog.com/2007/04/03/transparency-literacy-interpretation-and-the-enterprise/#comment-5184 Martin - You articulate a key issue - control. Those who want control do not see tranparency as a benefit. At times control is a good thing such as in the midst of negotiations and at other times, such as wanting to learn the outcome of these negotiations (if you have a proper busienss reasons for this information) to both make use of this data for business reasons and to learn from it, transparency works best. The policy and process implications are not simple to sort out. Bill Martin – You articulate a key issue – control. Those who want control do not see tranparency as a benefit. At times control is a good thing such as in the midst of negotiations and at other times, such as wanting to learn the outcome of these negotiations (if you have a proper busienss reasons for this information) to both make use of this data for business reasons and to learn from it, transparency works best. The policy and process implications are not simple to sort out. Bill

]]> By: martin english http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/04/03/transparency-literacy-interpretation-and-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-5176 martin english Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:05:17 +0000 http://fastforwardblog.com/2007/04/03/transparency-literacy-interpretation-and-the-enterprise/#comment-5176 I think this a more realistic view than the original post you referred to; Most organisations are not democracies, they're mini command-and-control economies (sometimes not so mini). I believe the leadership of these organisations are not always comfortable with the lack of control over what gets stored and diseeminated by web 2.0 tools inside the enterprise. I think this a more realistic view than the original post you referred to; Most organisations are not democracies, they’re mini command-and-control economies (sometimes not so mini). I believe the leadership of these organisations are not always comfortable with the lack of control over what gets stored and diseeminated by web 2.0 tools inside the enterprise.

]]> By: Bill Ives http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/04/03/transparency-literacy-interpretation-and-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-5042 Bill Ives Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:59:16 +0000 http://fastforwardblog.com/2007/04/03/transparency-literacy-interpretation-and-the-enterprise/#comment-5042 Jim - Thanks - You tapped an area I used to study as an academic in a former life. And now with highband and new search techniques we can also more easiy document, find, anomtate and comment on oral presentations and discussions. I think it continue to be interesting times to see how these potentials get realized and the side effects. Bill Jim – Thanks – You tapped an area I used to study as an academic in a former life. And now with highband and new search techniques we can also more easiy document, find, anomtate and comment on oral presentations and discussions. I think it continue to be interesting times to see how these potentials get realized and the side effects. Bill

]]> By: Jim McGee http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/04/03/transparency-literacy-interpretation-and-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-4992 Jim McGee Wed, 04 Apr 2007 02:56:13 +0000 http://fastforwardblog.com/2007/04/03/transparency-literacy-interpretation-and-the-enterprise/#comment-4992 Bill, Very nice elaboration. I like the notion that literate culture establishes a new notion of "original version" quite distinct from the oral traditions custom of fiddling with the details on each new telling. Bill,

Very nice elaboration. I like the notion that literate culture establishes a new notion of “original version” quite distinct from the oral traditions custom of fiddling with the details on each new telling.

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