Comments on: Enterprise 2.0 as a Front End for SOA http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/07/17/enterprise-20-as-a-front-end-for-soa/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:29:35 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Joe McKendrick http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/07/17/enterprise-20-as-a-front-end-for-soa/comment-page-1/#comment-24855 Joe McKendrick Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:52:57 +0000 http://fastforwardblog.com/2007/07/17/enterprise-20-as-a-front-end-for-soa/#comment-24855 Agreed. SOA is supposed to be about the business, but to date, SOA initiatives have been coming out of IT. The benefits delivered so far have better optimized IT operations, but not the business -- and this is where SOA could truly delver value. Web 2.0 has not been about optimizing IT, but directly impacting business operations. Agreed. SOA is supposed to be about the business, but to date, SOA initiatives have been coming out of IT. The benefits delivered so far have better optimized IT operations, but not the business — and this is where SOA could truly delver value. Web 2.0 has not been about optimizing IT, but directly impacting business operations.

]]> By: Paula Thornton http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/07/17/enterprise-20-as-a-front-end-for-soa/comment-page-1/#comment-24651 Paula Thornton Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:07:55 +0000 http://fastforwardblog.com/2007/07/17/enterprise-20-as-a-front-end-for-soa/#comment-24651 While we're at it, lets not forget that SOA is an architecture (I've already seen initiatives fail/flounder/sputter because they're put in the hands of technologist and not architects). And it is an architecture that helps to facilitate other architectures...ala. the columns of the Zachman Framework (http://www.zifa.com/framework.pdf) wherein, technology is a row and SOA fits into the Function column. My only caveat to the Zachman Framework is that the People column is far from accurate. It is not about the 'organization', it is the People Architectural considerations or UX Architecture. While we’re at it, lets not forget that SOA is an architecture (I’ve already seen initiatives fail/flounder/sputter because they’re put in the hands of technologist and not architects). And it is an architecture that helps to facilitate other architectures…ala. the columns of the Zachman Framework (http://www.zifa.com/framework.pdf) wherein, technology is a row and SOA fits into the Function column.

My only caveat to the Zachman Framework is that the People column is far from accurate. It is not about the ‘organization’, it is the People Architectural considerations or UX Architecture.

]]> By: Paula Thornton http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/07/17/enterprise-20-as-a-front-end-for-soa/comment-page-1/#comment-24614 Paula Thornton Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:08:53 +0000 http://fastforwardblog.com/2007/07/17/enterprise-20-as-a-front-end-for-soa/#comment-24614 It's so nice to have someone willing to voice this perspective. Feeling as though I might not clearly understand SOA (and clearly having no ground to claim such), I did not give voice to this perspective, but instead have worked to facilitate the connections between the two. The challenge I've found so far is that the resources I've run into who are championing SOA are often 1) not effective champions (they're technogeeks, not visionaries or facilitators) and 2) really don't understand the integrative potential of SOA. True to form for technogeeks, they operate analytically (focusing on one thing at a time, in isolation from the larger whole) not synthetically (envisioning possiblities and its impact on the whole). SOA is an enabler for greater synthesis. It’s so nice to have someone willing to voice this perspective. Feeling as though I might not clearly understand SOA (and clearly having no ground to claim such), I did not give voice to this perspective, but instead have worked to facilitate the connections between the two.

The challenge I’ve found so far is that the resources I’ve run into who are championing SOA are often 1) not effective champions (they’re technogeeks, not visionaries or facilitators) and 2) really don’t understand the integrative potential of SOA. True to form for technogeeks, they operate analytically (focusing on one thing at a time, in isolation from the larger whole) not synthetically (envisioning possiblities and its impact on the whole). SOA is an enabler for greater synthesis.

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