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	<title>Comments on: Social Software &#8211; Unintended Consequences at University</title>
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		<title>By: Jack Vinson</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/10/07/social-software-unintended-consequences-at-university/comment-page-1/#comment-59975</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Vinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the concept makes sense, I don&#039;t know if it necessarily spells doom for universities.  They will certainly need to pay attention to what their (aggregate) students are doing with online social nets, but they still need to provide places for people to gather for homework, study breaks, eating and drinking.  And these are exactly the kinds of places that people need to collect and find one another.  Sure, some will hole up with their BFF&#039;s from primary school, but there are many who prefer the physical connection with their colleagues.  It&#039;s one reason I like to go hang out at coffee shops, even when working alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the concept makes sense, I don&#8217;t know if it necessarily spells doom for universities.  They will certainly need to pay attention to what their (aggregate) students are doing with online social nets, but they still need to provide places for people to gather for homework, study breaks, eating and drinking.  And these are exactly the kinds of places that people need to collect and find one another.  Sure, some will hole up with their BFF&#8217;s from primary school, but there are many who prefer the physical connection with their colleagues.  It&#8217;s one reason I like to go hang out at coffee shops, even when working alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Suw</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/10/07/social-software-unintended-consequences-at-university/comment-page-1/#comment-59556</link>
		<dc:creator>Suw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overall, I think the ability to maintain relationships over previously difficult geographical distances is a positive thing, and I can imagine than being able to keep in touch with school friends whilst at university may remove some of the fear of having to deal with a new place, new people, new demands because you know that someone you trust is going through the same thing and you can share that experience. 

But social networks have never been and never will be a full replacement for offline interaction. Indeed, shortly after I started blogging five years ago, I started meeting up with my fellow bloggers. Online interactions are valuable, but they aren&#039;t quite as much fun as getting out of the house and doing stuff with other people. Maybe Facebook is slowing down the process of students getting out and getting to know each other,  but the flip side of that is that perhaps it also makes it less intimidating? 

And if you are concerned that students are becoming too withdrawn, then perhaps focusing on drawing them out to offline events, and on face-to-face collaboration on their studies would go some way to redress the balance. Then use social software to perpetuate, solidify and enhance these new relationships. 

I do want to say, though, that the experience of university you described isn&#039;t necessarily the experience every student will have. My university years were three of the most lousy, unhappy and alienating years of my life, and I was glad to be shot of them. I&#039;d have loved to have had some sort of way to keep in touch with friends from home, but those relationships atrophied quickly because I hardly ever saw them - even during holidays, because I was on compulsory field trips. For any student going through that sort of experience, Facebook would be a godsend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overall, I think the ability to maintain relationships over previously difficult geographical distances is a positive thing, and I can imagine than being able to keep in touch with school friends whilst at university may remove some of the fear of having to deal with a new place, new people, new demands because you know that someone you trust is going through the same thing and you can share that experience. </p>
<p>But social networks have never been and never will be a full replacement for offline interaction. Indeed, shortly after I started blogging five years ago, I started meeting up with my fellow bloggers. Online interactions are valuable, but they aren&#8217;t quite as much fun as getting out of the house and doing stuff with other people. Maybe Facebook is slowing down the process of students getting out and getting to know each other,  but the flip side of that is that perhaps it also makes it less intimidating? </p>
<p>And if you are concerned that students are becoming too withdrawn, then perhaps focusing on drawing them out to offline events, and on face-to-face collaboration on their studies would go some way to redress the balance. Then use social software to perpetuate, solidify and enhance these new relationships. </p>
<p>I do want to say, though, that the experience of university you described isn&#8217;t necessarily the experience every student will have. My university years were three of the most lousy, unhappy and alienating years of my life, and I was glad to be shot of them. I&#8217;d have loved to have had some sort of way to keep in touch with friends from home, but those relationships atrophied quickly because I hardly ever saw them &#8211; even during holidays, because I was on compulsory field trips. For any student going through that sort of experience, Facebook would be a godsend.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula Thornton</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/10/07/social-software-unintended-consequences-at-university/comment-page-1/#comment-59136</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re missing the corollary also to be found in the post-graduate world: business. Just a couple of weeks ago, the same distinction was noted by a colleague who had been at the company long enough to still have deep &#039;remembered&#039; relationships with people they no longer work with (similar stories of shared personal milestones). The point being that relationships are no longer bound by geographic dimensions.

We worked harder on relationships (work or educational) leveraging different dimensions of commonalities. Now, it is possible to develop deeper intellectual relationships (or whatever dimension of commonality preferred). We simply have more choices and therfore can leverage different possiblities. Our humanness has not lessened, it&#039;s just applied in different ways.

As in the &#039;legacy&#039; model there are likely both positive and less-than-positive elements to be found. Overall, I believe that the geographic boundaries contributed to more &#039;closed&#039; cultures. We see the effect of the minimization of geographic boundaries in significant geopolitical transitions over the past few decades.

Indeed, in watching a recording today of a talk given to University students just last month, a member of NASA shared the significance of geopolitical changes in the space program. In talking about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/behindscenes/jaxa_hope.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;International Space Station&lt;/a&gt; it was shared how, from the space station, they all point back to the same location to identify &quot;where they&#039;re from&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re missing the corollary also to be found in the post-graduate world: business. Just a couple of weeks ago, the same distinction was noted by a colleague who had been at the company long enough to still have deep &#8216;remembered&#8217; relationships with people they no longer work with (similar stories of shared personal milestones). The point being that relationships are no longer bound by geographic dimensions.</p>
<p>We worked harder on relationships (work or educational) leveraging different dimensions of commonalities. Now, it is possible to develop deeper intellectual relationships (or whatever dimension of commonality preferred). We simply have more choices and therfore can leverage different possiblities. Our humanness has not lessened, it&#8217;s just applied in different ways.</p>
<p>As in the &#8216;legacy&#8217; model there are likely both positive and less-than-positive elements to be found. Overall, I believe that the geographic boundaries contributed to more &#8216;closed&#8217; cultures. We see the effect of the minimization of geographic boundaries in significant geopolitical transitions over the past few decades.</p>
<p>Indeed, in watching a recording today of a talk given to University students just last month, a member of NASA shared the significance of geopolitical changes in the space program. In talking about the <a href="http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/behindscenes/jaxa_hope.html" rel="nofollow">International Space Station</a> it was shared how, from the space station, they all point back to the same location to identify &#8220;where they&#8217;re from&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Paterson</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/10/07/social-software-unintended-consequences-at-university/comment-page-1/#comment-59131</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Paterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Harold - makes sense
More anyone?
R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Harold &#8211; makes sense<br />
More anyone?<br />
R</p>
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		<title>By: Harold Jarche</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/10/07/social-software-unintended-consequences-at-university/comment-page-1/#comment-59117</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold Jarche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will that make online universities more appealing for the next generation? Their friends are online, so why not their education?

As for what Dal, and other universities can do - how about appealing to groups of friends, instead of individuals? Bring Your Own Network, may be the new recruiting mantra. 

Just musing ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will that make online universities more appealing for the next generation? Their friends are online, so why not their education?</p>
<p>As for what Dal, and other universities can do &#8211; how about appealing to groups of friends, instead of individuals? Bring Your Own Network, may be the new recruiting mantra. </p>
<p>Just musing &#8230;</p>
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