Comments on: The Social Web – A “New World” http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/ Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:13:30 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Maura McNulty http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/comment-page-1/#comment-137564 Maura McNulty Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:44:23 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/#comment-137564 I'm observant, cool! Well if HP can go from printers to gaming, why can't Xbox go from gaming to TV? It's a proverbial brand, market, and product mashup in here at the digital space. I’m observant, cool! Well if HP can go from printers to gaming, why can’t Xbox go from gaming to TV? It’s a proverbial brand, market, and product mashup in here at the digital space.

]]> By: Rob Paterson http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/comment-page-1/#comment-136718 Rob Paterson Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:34:08 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/#comment-136718 Thank you Maura - you are so observant - the 2nd pic is a still from Once Upon a Time in America and the two kids in the foreground are indeed having a fight. I think you have added some thing to the conversation in pointing out that you have to live your "whole life" in this world. It's not just about play or work but all of it. Then you become a citizen. I have a feeling that Xbox, a gaming console, may also become a key new channel for TV - from Gaming to Mainstream? Thank you Maura – you are so observant – the 2nd pic is a still from Once Upon a Time in America and the two kids in the foreground are indeed having a fight.

I think you have added some thing to the conversation in pointing out that you have to live your “whole life” in this world. It’s not just about play or work but all of it. Then you become a citizen.

I have a feeling that Xbox, a gaming console, may also become a key new channel for TV – from Gaming to Mainstream?

]]> By: Maura McNulty http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/comment-page-1/#comment-136463 Maura McNulty Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:59:57 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/#comment-136463 I love those photos, Rob. I second Rob Patterson's thoughts about leadership as I do Chirag's comment about how pressing physical reality continues to be, as depicted in your photos of the couple who look like they're having a lover's spat. Until you work, play and socialize in the virtual world Enterprise 2.0 is a complicated overlay to more work, less play. I challenge marketing, even Apple's marketing, to find the sweet spot for a magnificent rather than mundane Enterprise disruption. My favorite iphone feature, is the excellent camera and photo email. Talk about a boon to ilove and igotcha. I see many tools that could help tip mass implementation. Middle-schoolers craved Sidekicks, which made IM'ing take off, even second graders use Nintendo DS to write notes to ANYONE who'll write back. None of these were ever marketed to me or the "old farts" either - you don't have to be young to be a market. We need the Twitter Box with the easy key pad, or the Wikibot that leaps over passwords and userIDs. Make it fun and they, at any age, will come. I love those photos, Rob. I second Rob Patterson’s thoughts about leadership as I do Chirag’s comment about how pressing physical reality continues to be, as depicted in your photos of the couple who look like they’re having a lover’s spat. Until you work, play and socialize in the virtual world Enterprise 2.0 is a complicated overlay to more work, less play.

I challenge marketing, even Apple’s marketing, to find the sweet spot for a magnificent rather than mundane Enterprise disruption. My favorite iphone feature, is the excellent camera and photo email. Talk about a boon to ilove and igotcha. I see many tools that could help tip mass implementation. Middle-schoolers craved Sidekicks, which made IM’ing take off, even second graders use Nintendo DS to write notes to ANYONE who’ll write back. None of these were ever marketed to me or the “old farts” either – you don’t have to be young to be a market. We need the Twitter Box with the easy key pad, or the Wikibot that leaps over passwords and userIDs. Make it fun and they, at any age, will come.

]]> By: chirag gandhi http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/comment-page-1/#comment-133581 chirag gandhi Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:54:52 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/#comment-133581 IMHO, the immigrants had it easier than the enterprises of today - the physical change in location provided a setting which signalled the necessity for a change in behavior/thinking. In my interactions with clients, I a finding a willingness to adopt the tools and technology of 2.0 without imbibing the ethos of it. The challenge we face Enterprise 2.0 = Tools 2.0 <b>OR</b> Enterprise 2.0 = Paradigm 2.0 At its fullest "2.0" is a disruptive innovation - and hence it needs to be adopted as such... hence it needs to be approached as such... hence it needs to be "sold" as such... This is a state much like ERP - many of the "old farts" bought into the idea of <b>deploying<b> ERP, but approached it as a tool => disaster => bad publicity... The ERP "industry" learned from these mistakes and started providing consulting services on how to avoid the mistakes of the failures - how to <b>implement</b> ERP as a change in thought process => success... We need to take these learn from our past, create the collateral required to guide our clients on how to <b>implement</b> these innovative technologies. IMHO, the immigrants had it easier than the enterprises of today – the physical change in location provided a setting which signalled the necessity for a change in behavior/thinking.

In my interactions with clients, I a finding a willingness to adopt the tools and technology of 2.0 without imbibing the ethos of it.

The challenge we face

Enterprise 2.0 = Tools 2.0
OR
Enterprise 2.0 = Paradigm 2.0

At its fullest “2.0″ is a disruptive innovation – and hence it needs to be adopted as such… hence it needs to be approached as such… hence it needs to be “sold” as such…

This is a state much like ERP – many of the “old farts” bought into the idea of deploying ERP, but approached it as a tool => disaster => bad publicity…
The ERP “industry” learned from these mistakes and started providing consulting services on how to avoid the mistakes of the failures – how to implement ERP as a change in thought process => success…

We need to take these learn from our past, create the collateral required to guide our clients on how to implement these innovative technologies.

]]> By: Paula Thornton http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/comment-page-1/#comment-133155 Paula Thornton Tue, 01 Jan 2008 19:10:26 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/#comment-133155 I love this thought. I need to ruminate it on a bit more. To have raised this connection, you are truly a synthesizer (e.g. Design Thinker). I love this thought. I need to ruminate it on a bit more. To have raised this connection, you are truly a synthesizer (e.g. Design Thinker).

]]> By: Rob Paterson http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/comment-page-1/#comment-132772 Rob Paterson Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:31:25 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/#comment-132772 Yes Jon - a sea change ahead but I fear a lot of shit to happen to force it to the surface - For instance at home on PEI, our farmers will largely be gone in 2008. Every piece of research tells us that we have the least prepared, fattest, least healthy kids in Canada. At some point I hope in 2008 - we may acknowledge that we have to have another perspective I am encouraged by General Petraeus. In 2004 he saw that what we were doing in Iraq could not work and with General Matthis pulled a very small team together to re write the manual - look at the result! So I think that it is a leadership issue too - when 2 of the top soldiers call for a new way, the institution can change - but I fear that no amount of groundswell will do it without some - a few only - at the top of the existing system supporting the new Yes Jon – a sea change ahead but I fear a lot of shit to happen to force it to the surface – For instance at home on PEI, our farmers will largely be gone in 2008. Every piece of research tells us that we have the least prepared, fattest, least healthy kids in Canada.

At some point I hope in 2008 – we may acknowledge that we have to have another perspective

I am encouraged by General Petraeus. In 2004 he saw that what we were doing in Iraq could not work and with General Matthis pulled a very small team together to re write the manual – look at the result!

So I think that it is a leadership issue too – when 2 of the top soldiers call for a new way, the institution can change – but I fear that no amount of groundswell will do it without some – a few only – at the top of the existing system supporting the new

]]> By: Jon Husband http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/comment-page-1/#comment-132561 Jon Husband Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:17:29 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/#comment-132561 And .. as JP Rangaswami outlined recently at LeWeb 3 the new generations are coming to the workplace already fully trained up in the new knowledge work tools, and seem to take to collaboration quite naturally. Gary Hamel's new book The Future of Management also makes many of the pertinent points, and points out time and again that there has been relatively little adaptation of yesteryear's management methodologies and processes. Much change yet to come, I think. And .. as JP Rangaswami outlined recently at LeWeb 3 the new generations are coming to the workplace already fully trained up in the new knowledge work tools, and seem to take to collaboration quite naturally.

Gary Hamel’s new book The Future of Management also makes many of the pertinent points, and points out time and again that there has been relatively little adaptation of yesteryear’s management methodologies and processes.

Much change yet to come, I think.

]]> By: Jon Husband http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/comment-page-1/#comment-132560 Jon Husband Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:14:31 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2007/12/30/the-social-web-a-new-world/#comment-132560 Rob ... It may be in our still-small circles of people who have taken to the Web and use it, and see the inexorable adoption and progress in spite of much resistance, but I think that the Digital Native - Digital Immigrant divide and metaphor has been much written about already. Perhaps not so much in fora such as this blog. I'll be glad to point you to any number of essays, papers and blog posts. Rob …

It may be in our still-small circles of people who have taken to the Web and use it, and see the inexorable adoption and progress in spite of much resistance, but I think that the Digital Native – Digital Immigrant divide and metaphor has been much written about already. Perhaps not so much in fora such as this blog.

I’ll be glad to point you to any number of essays, papers and blog posts.

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