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	<title>Comments on: Forrester&#8217;s Most Recent Predictions for the Emerging Enterprise 2.0 Market</title>
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		<title>By: Greg Wallace</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/01/28/forresters-most-recent-predictions-for-the-emerging-enterprise-20-market-2/comment-page-1/#comment-143447</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My income has suffered, but that’s in many ways a different story&quot;

I&#039;m an expert in this field.

Haven&#039;t heard of the book, but I&#039;ll check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My income has suffered, but that’s in many ways a different story&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an expert in this field.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t heard of the book, but I&#8217;ll check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup ... 

And, as a long-time management consultant for a large firm (not in IT, but in HR, org design and effectiveness) there&#039;s an incredible amount of packaging often applied to common sense to make a viable business model, notably for the well-paid senior people.

I got tired (very) of selling the same (and inflexible) solutions all the time, as opposed to being able to say what I really think.  My income has suffered, but that&#039;s in many ways a different story ;-)

Ever heard of the book The Witch Doctors, about mgt. cnsulting and pundits ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup &#8230; </p>
<p>And, as a long-time management consultant for a large firm (not in IT, but in HR, org design and effectiveness) there&#8217;s an incredible amount of packaging often applied to common sense to make a viable business model, notably for the well-paid senior people.</p>
<p>I got tired (very) of selling the same (and inflexible) solutions all the time, as opposed to being able to say what I really think.  My income has suffered, but that&#8217;s in many ways a different story <img src='http://www.fastforwardblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ever heard of the book The Witch Doctors, about mgt. cnsulting and pundits ?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Wallace</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/01/28/forresters-most-recent-predictions-for-the-emerging-enterprise-20-market-2/comment-page-1/#comment-143434</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed!

for the record, I basically agree with your (and Eric&#039;s) conclusions, although one can never underestimate the ferocity of SPs (to borrow a term from Tom Cruise) to try to halt progress.  

My objection is not with the conlcusion, but rather with the circuitous (seems too mild) path Forrester took to get there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed!</p>
<p>for the record, I basically agree with your (and Eric&#8217;s) conclusions, although one can never underestimate the ferocity of SPs (to borrow a term from Tom Cruise) to try to halt progress.  </p>
<p>My objection is not with the conlcusion, but rather with the circuitous (seems too mild) path Forrester took to get there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Eric.  If I am not mistaken, we met at the Adobe-sponsored soiree at KMWorld in San Jose ?

Yes, I think, as I noted above, that the use of social computing tools and services is effectively inescapable ... computers are everywhere, on every work desk, there&#039;s been ten years or more of increasing emphasis on usability and interoperability, the knowledge workers of tomorrow all use mobile devices and grow up with computers in school, thank Facebook and MySpace, etc. etc. etc. and so on.

Do you know the work of Wim Veen in Holland on &quot;Homo Zappiens&quot; (not Homo sapiens) ?

Greg .. it&#039;s so funny to imagine that people other than professional analysts are reading, researching, thinking and may have valid and useful insights .. or that they can &quot;crowdsource&quot; or &quot;mobsource&quot; information from other aware and knowledgeable people and then do a good job with synthesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Eric.  If I am not mistaken, we met at the Adobe-sponsored soiree at KMWorld in San Jose ?</p>
<p>Yes, I think, as I noted above, that the use of social computing tools and services is effectively inescapable &#8230; computers are everywhere, on every work desk, there&#8217;s been ten years or more of increasing emphasis on usability and interoperability, the knowledge workers of tomorrow all use mobile devices and grow up with computers in school, thank Facebook and MySpace, etc. etc. etc. and so on.</p>
<p>Do you know the work of Wim Veen in Holland on &#8220;Homo Zappiens&#8221; (not Homo sapiens) ?</p>
<p>Greg .. it&#8217;s so funny to imagine that people other than professional analysts are reading, researching, thinking and may have valid and useful insights .. or that they can &#8220;crowdsource&#8221; or &#8220;mobsource&#8221; information from other aware and knowledgeable people and then do a good job with synthesis.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL  - they&#039;ll shout &quot;technographics&quot; at me until I break...

in all seriousness, this is part of the reason why I am such a huge fan of the new generation of &quot;open&quot; analyst firms, like Redmonk and Freeform Dynamics.  The latter just released a really good report (free) with The Register on the topic of relieving the systems management burden to rival anything from Forrester/Gartner/IDC, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL  &#8211; they&#8217;ll shout &#8220;technographics&#8221; at me until I break&#8230;</p>
<p>in all seriousness, this is part of the reason why I am such a huge fan of the new generation of &#8220;open&#8221; analyst firms, like Redmonk and Freeform Dynamics.  The latter just released a really good report (free) with The Register on the topic of relieving the systems management burden to rival anything from Forrester/Gartner/IDC, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Sauve</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/01/28/forresters-most-recent-predictions-for-the-emerging-enterprise-20-market-2/comment-page-1/#comment-143408</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Sauve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, 

It would certainly seem like the stars are all aligned for social software to hit the big time in the next 1-2 years.

Having been in the space for a while, I fully agree with their assessment that CIOs will not be able to quell the awakening happening as their employees are exposed to social tools on the public internet.  Way to go Facebook!

Thanks for the post!

Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, </p>
<p>It would certainly seem like the stars are all aligned for social software to hit the big time in the next 1-2 years.</p>
<p>Having been in the space for a while, I fully agree with their assessment that CIOs will not be able to quell the awakening happening as their employees are exposed to social tools on the public internet.  Way to go Facebook!</p>
<p>Thanks for the post!</p>
<p>Eric</p>
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		<title>By: Paula Thornton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Greg, but try taking issue with their logic and they&#039;ll call your employer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Greg, but try taking issue with their logic and they&#8217;ll call your employer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/01/28/forresters-most-recent-predictions-for-the-emerging-enterprise-20-market-2/comment-page-1/#comment-143394</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, I agree with your points about opinion and specualioon versus definitive research.  Forrester&#039;s business model depends upon having something like this to opine, speculate and write about, no ?

Nevertheless, my &lt;i&gt;opinion&lt;/i&gt; is that social software and social computing tools and services &lt;b&gt;will&lt;/b&gt; continue to spread into and throughout the workplace.  I think the capabilities and dynamics are too intrinsic to the nature of knowledge work carried out in the midst of constant flows of information.

But let&#039;s be clear ... that is just an opinion on my part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, I agree with your points about opinion and specualioon versus definitive research.  Forrester&#8217;s business model depends upon having something like this to opine, speculate and write about, no ?</p>
<p>Nevertheless, my <i>opinion</i> is that social software and social computing tools and services <b>will</b> continue to spread into and throughout the workplace.  I think the capabilities and dynamics are too intrinsic to the nature of knowledge work carried out in the midst of constant flows of information.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s be clear &#8230; that is just an opinion on my part.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Wallace</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/01/28/forresters-most-recent-predictions-for-the-emerging-enterprise-20-market-2/comment-page-1/#comment-143385</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I had the same arithmetic problem with the graph, but I have an ever bigger problem with Forrester&#039;s &quot;Don&#039;t confuse me with the facts&quot; logic.  I mean, c&#039;mon - if you&#039;re going to survey people and they tell you that it&#039;s not a priority, you can&#039;t very well make the case that it *is* a priority, but that they repsondents just don&#039;t know it.  This is almost laughable.

I&#039;m surprised that this would come from Forrester.  

BTW - they might be right, but that&#039;s opinion and speculation, not &quot;Research.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I had the same arithmetic problem with the graph, but I have an ever bigger problem with Forrester&#8217;s &#8220;Don&#8217;t confuse me with the facts&#8221; logic.  I mean, c&#8217;mon &#8211; if you&#8217;re going to survey people and they tell you that it&#8217;s not a priority, you can&#8217;t very well make the case that it *is* a priority, but that they repsondents just don&#8217;t know it.  This is almost laughable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised that this would come from Forrester.  </p>
<p>BTW &#8211; they might be right, but that&#8217;s opinion and speculation, not &#8220;Research.&#8221;</p>
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