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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/02/19/dealing-with-social-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-147554</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What is not clear is how long it will take for businesses to adapt their structures and working practices, and the extent to which these changes will take place. My sense is that organisational control systems, designed for a past industrial era (and even then inappropriate) will not change easily.&lt;/i&gt;

Jim and I talked about this at length and in detail whilst in Orlando ... when you look at work design, job evaluation schemes (not performance evaluation, job evaluation as in pay grades), and compensation practices (the dry stuff nobody ever want sto tackle or talk about), there&#039;s a mine field full of trip wires waiting to be set off (in my opinion) if and when enterprise 2.0 practices and dynamics begin to spread throughout organizations to any really meaningful degree.

Peter Drucker once said &lt;i&gt;&quot;the knowledge workers now own the means of production&quot;&lt;/i&gt; (he meant in a knowledge-based economy), and that as they grow to understand that better, they would want to share in power and status, etc.  ... which would mean significant change(s) to the Taylorism-derived schemes of job evaluation and most standard compensation practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What is not clear is how long it will take for businesses to adapt their structures and working practices, and the extent to which these changes will take place. My sense is that organisational control systems, designed for a past industrial era (and even then inappropriate) will not change easily.</i></p>
<p>Jim and I talked about this at length and in detail whilst in Orlando &#8230; when you look at work design, job evaluation schemes (not performance evaluation, job evaluation as in pay grades), and compensation practices (the dry stuff nobody ever want sto tackle or talk about), there&#8217;s a mine field full of trip wires waiting to be set off (in my opinion) if and when enterprise 2.0 practices and dynamics begin to spread throughout organizations to any really meaningful degree.</p>
<p>Peter Drucker once said <i>&#8220;the knowledge workers now own the means of production&#8221;</i> (he meant in a knowledge-based economy), and that as they grow to understand that better, they would want to share in power and status, etc.  &#8230; which would mean significant change(s) to the Taylorism-derived schemes of job evaluation and most standard compensation practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Marie McEwan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Marie McEwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim

&quot;The reality in enterprises is that control remains central to enterprise DNA&quot; - I am glad to hear this being so clearly said. It is about time. 

I see a parallel with what was happening two decades ago in manufacturing. Then it was the need for UK manufacturers (the parochial focus is because that is where I am from) to adopt process innovation, in response to, and in emulation of, efficient Japanese manufacturing. The transition from traditional manufacturing processes to lean manufacturing was slow and patchy, despite the urgency of competitive pressures.

Now businesses need to adapt and change in response to a raft of environmental factors, including hyper-competition from emerging economies. We are to believe that social networking and Enterprise 2.0 technologies will force adoption of new working practices,  as hierarchical command and control is challenged by self-organised, peer-to-peer production. It is the newest generation coming into the workplace that is supposed to be leading the charge.

It is not unreasonable to speculate that young people might challenge existing working practices but early clues that the new generation’s communication and collaboration habits will not be seamlessly absorbed within organisations are available in the large numbers of UK businesses banning access to social networking sites behind company firewalls. Social networking or social not working? I think we know what many businesses leaders think.

As Don Tapscott implies in the video clip on this blog a few days ago, conflict between entrenched and slow-to-change working practices and attitudes seems inevitable. What is not clear is how long it will take for businesses to adapt their structures and working practices, and the extent to which these changes will take place. My sense is that organisational control systems, designed for a past industrial era (and even then inappropriate) will not change easily.

Regards

Anne Marie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim</p>
<p>&#8220;The reality in enterprises is that control remains central to enterprise DNA&#8221; &#8211; I am glad to hear this being so clearly said. It is about time. </p>
<p>I see a parallel with what was happening two decades ago in manufacturing. Then it was the need for UK manufacturers (the parochial focus is because that is where I am from) to adopt process innovation, in response to, and in emulation of, efficient Japanese manufacturing. The transition from traditional manufacturing processes to lean manufacturing was slow and patchy, despite the urgency of competitive pressures.</p>
<p>Now businesses need to adapt and change in response to a raft of environmental factors, including hyper-competition from emerging economies. We are to believe that social networking and Enterprise 2.0 technologies will force adoption of new working practices,  as hierarchical command and control is challenged by self-organised, peer-to-peer production. It is the newest generation coming into the workplace that is supposed to be leading the charge.</p>
<p>It is not unreasonable to speculate that young people might challenge existing working practices but early clues that the new generation’s communication and collaboration habits will not be seamlessly absorbed within organisations are available in the large numbers of UK businesses banning access to social networking sites behind company firewalls. Social networking or social not working? I think we know what many businesses leaders think.</p>
<p>As Don Tapscott implies in the video clip on this blog a few days ago, conflict between entrenched and slow-to-change working practices and attitudes seems inevitable. What is not clear is how long it will take for businesses to adapt their structures and working practices, and the extent to which these changes will take place. My sense is that organisational control systems, designed for a past industrial era (and even then inappropriate) will not change easily.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Anne Marie</p>
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		<title>By: Jim McGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcel,

A very useful set of observations and suggestions. Thanks for sharing.</description>
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<p>A very useful set of observations and suggestions. Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcel de Ruiter</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/02/19/dealing-with-social-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-147396</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcel de Ruiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim,

From 2,5 years of experimenting I can indeed confirm that things are quit different “behind the firewall” and that some special things should happen for people to start participating, let’s say the 99,9% who need the stimulus. 

I recently put out some thoughts on this: 
http://www.shapingthoughts.com/2008/02/06/thoughts-on-the-lack-of-intranet-participation

cheers,
Marcel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim,</p>
<p>From 2,5 years of experimenting I can indeed confirm that things are quit different “behind the firewall” and that some special things should happen for people to start participating, let’s say the 99,9% who need the stimulus. </p>
<p>I recently put out some thoughts on this:<br />
<a href="http://www.shapingthoughts.com/2008/02/06/thoughts-on-the-lack-of-intranet-participation" rel="nofollow">http://www.shapingthoughts.com/2008/02/06/thoughts-on-the-lack-of-intranet-participation</a></p>
<p>cheers,<br />
Marcel</p>
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