Comments on: The Cloud According to Google at Enterprise 2.0 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/06/10/the-cloud-according-to-google-at-enterprise-20/ Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:38:51 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Bill Ives http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/06/10/the-cloud-according-to-google-at-enterprise-20/comment-page-1/#comment-160946 Bill Ives Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:37:34 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/?p=938#comment-160946 Paula - Yes - I think their risk tolerance will effect where they play and what they consider a more likely threat - a lost laptop and thumb drive with critical information or someone breaking into the cloud. Bill Paula – Yes – I think their risk tolerance will effect where they play and what they consider a more likely threat – a lost laptop and thumb drive with critical information or someone breaking into the cloud.

Bill

]]> By: Paula Thornton http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/06/10/the-cloud-according-to-google-at-enterprise-20/comment-page-1/#comment-160873 Paula Thornton Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:04:57 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/?p=938#comment-160873 The point I was making is that if you consider SAAS on one end of a cloud continuum ubiquitous utilities (freeware) like Google functions on the other, many might think that Enterprises (particularly on the larger scale -- vs. smaller, more nimble, adaptive entities) are less likely to function in the cloud. My contention was that outsourcing is already part of the cloud continuum. So it would appear to be more a matter of where on the continuum an enterprise is willing to 'play'. Yes? The point I was making is that if you consider SAAS on one end of a cloud continuum ubiquitous utilities (freeware) like Google functions on the other, many might think that Enterprises (particularly on the larger scale — vs. smaller, more nimble, adaptive entities) are less likely to function in the cloud. My contention was that outsourcing is already part of the cloud continuum. So it would appear to be more a matter of where on the continuum an enterprise is willing to ‘play’. Yes?

]]> By: Bill Ives http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/06/10/the-cloud-according-to-google-at-enterprise-20/comment-page-1/#comment-160785 Bill Ives Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:28:21 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/?p=938#comment-160785 Paula Help me understand the distinctions you mean - cloud vs ? enterprise 2.0 vs. cloud? Happy to respond. You are missing a nice event. Many e 2.0 players here. I will try to write more tomorrow Bill Paula

Help me understand the distinctions you mean – cloud vs ? enterprise 2.0 vs. cloud? Happy to respond. You are missing a nice event. Many e 2.0 players here. I will try to write more tomorrow

Bill

]]> By: Paula Thornton http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/06/10/the-cloud-according-to-google-at-enterprise-20/comment-page-1/#comment-160756 Paula Thornton Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:24:06 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/?p=938#comment-160756 Bill: Since I often read these pieces to digest them over several 'visits' I wanted to get out one reinforcing statement and yet be transparent that I haven't read the whole piece yet. I've had at least 4 different conversations around economics today. This will make 5. In first part where you take issue with the potential distinctions between Enterprise 2.0. I'm there with you. The economics of this is: not all attributes are equal. In this case, scale is relevant and while it would be likely that business models in the long tail might capitalize on their business software in the cloud, we hesitate (particularly looking at the resistance and barriers we've seen) to suggest that larger corporations would do so. But then let me flip on that just briefly. I am also exposed to the fact that a good number of major enterprises outsource a good portion of their IT services -- while a much older model, there are definitely some cloud attributes there. A point relevant here is that while some could make distinctions from the outsourcing model, they're close enough that gapping those differences might not be much of a stretch. Help me think of other distinctions that are critical...my mind has been down so many different possibilities today that everything is suddenly possible. Reel me in. Bill: Since I often read these pieces to digest them over several ‘visits’ I wanted to get out one reinforcing statement and yet be transparent that I haven’t read the whole piece yet.

I’ve had at least 4 different conversations around economics today. This will make 5. In first part where you take issue with the potential distinctions between Enterprise 2.0. I’m there with you. The economics of this is: not all attributes are equal. In this case, scale is relevant and while it would be likely that business models in the long tail might capitalize on their business software in the cloud, we hesitate (particularly looking at the resistance and barriers we’ve seen) to suggest that larger corporations would do so.

But then let me flip on that just briefly. I am also exposed to the fact that a good number of major enterprises outsource a good portion of their IT services — while a much older model, there are definitely some cloud attributes there. A point relevant here is that while some could make distinctions from the outsourcing model, they’re close enough that gapping those differences might not be much of a stretch.

Help me think of other distinctions that are critical…my mind has been down so many different possibilities today that everything is suddenly possible. Reel me in.

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