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	<title>Comments on: Enterprise 2.0 &#8211; France&#8217;s Excellent Chance(s)</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/11/16/enterprise-20-frances-excellent-chances/comment-page-1/#comment-212954</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Understood.   Yes, its system of &lt;i&gt;fonctionnaires&lt;/i&gt; and a class hierarchy is well cemented into place. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understood.   Yes, its system of <i>fonctionnaires</i> and a class hierarchy is well cemented into place.</p>
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		<title>By: The Koi Man</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/11/16/enterprise-20-frances-excellent-chances/comment-page-1/#comment-213086</link>
		<dc:creator>The Koi Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#8217;s in question is not about the younger generation unwilling to change.  It&#8217;s about the government infrastructure.  I don&#8217;t have to be a native of France to understand that the system is rigid.  Getting around it is almost impossible from my point of view. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&rsquo;s in question is not about the younger generation unwilling to change.  It&rsquo;s about the government infrastructure.  I don&rsquo;t have to be a native of France to understand that the system is rigid.  Getting around it is almost impossible from my point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/11/16/enterprise-20-frances-excellent-chances/comment-page-1/#comment-213070</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it seems that many (some ?) of France&#039;s younger people are interested in looking elsewhere to live and work, at least for a while.  I know, for example, that Canada (and Quebec in particular) is seen as an interesting place to go because (reportedly) life and work can be more &#039;flexible&quot; there.  I have a decent number of friends in Montreal originally from France.  Most of them like it a lot, while confessing to missing some of what they had or experienced at home in France.  Is a potential brain drain an incentive to begin changing some policies ? 
 
Don&#039;t get me wrong, though.  I know France well enough to believe that it&#039;s national fabric and infrastructure, and some of the central cultural mores, are very strong and offer conditions amenable to a productive and fruitful life.  And it may just be, given the major turmoil in developed economies around the world, that some of France&#039;s &quot;stodginess&quot; and (at least in Americans&#039; eyes) tendency towards socialist policies may turn out to be an enviable virtue.  contrary to Francis Fukuyama&#039;s decade-old premise, the end of history is not in sight, yet. 
 
On the world stage, France has had to swallow a lot of criticism about not being &quot;flexible&quot; and &quot;dynamic&quot; enough, especially in comparison to the USA.  Hey, look at where &quot;flexibility&quot; and dynamism&quot; have gotten the USA ;-) 
 
And yes, of course, I am being overly simplistic. 
 
But I continue to believe that France has a lot of strengths, some of which it and it&#039;s citizens don&#039;t easily acknowledge. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it seems that many (some ?) of France&#039;s younger people are interested in looking elsewhere to live and work, at least for a while.  I know, for example, that Canada (and Quebec in particular) is seen as an interesting place to go because (reportedly) life and work can be more &#039;flexible&quot; there.  I have a decent number of friends in Montreal originally from France.  Most of them like it a lot, while confessing to missing some of what they had or experienced at home in France.  Is a potential brain drain an incentive to begin changing some policies ? </p>
<p>Don&#039;t get me wrong, though.  I know France well enough to believe that it&#039;s national fabric and infrastructure, and some of the central cultural mores, are very strong and offer conditions amenable to a productive and fruitful life.  And it may just be, given the major turmoil in developed economies around the world, that some of France&#039;s &quot;stodginess&quot; and (at least in Americans&#039; eyes) tendency towards socialist policies may turn out to be an enviable virtue.  contrary to Francis Fukuyama&#039;s decade-old premise, the end of history is not in sight, yet. </p>
<p>On the world stage, France has had to swallow a lot of criticism about not being &quot;flexible&quot; and &quot;dynamic&quot; enough, especially in comparison to the USA.  Hey, look at where &quot;flexibility&quot; and dynamism&quot; have gotten the USA <img src='http://www.fastforwardblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>And yes, of course, I am being overly simplistic. </p>
<p>But I continue to believe that France has a lot of strengths, some of which it and it&#039;s citizens don&#039;t easily acknowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: The Koi Man</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/11/16/enterprise-20-frances-excellent-chances/comment-page-1/#comment-213069</link>
		<dc:creator>The Koi Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, I didn&#039;t say you were wrong.  My thought is France won&#039;t change anytime soon because there isn&#039;t any incentive. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, I didn&#039;t say you were wrong.  My thought is France won&#039;t change anytime soon because there isn&#039;t any incentive.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/11/16/enterprise-20-frances-excellent-chances/comment-page-1/#comment-213051</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, The Koi Man.  I did us the word &quot;if&quot; ... perhaps I should have capitalized it ? 
 
;-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, The Koi Man.  I did us the word &quot;if&quot; &#8230; perhaps I should have capitalized it ?<br />
  <img src='http://www.fastforwardblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Koi Man</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/11/16/enterprise-20-frances-excellent-chances/comment-page-1/#comment-212700</link>
		<dc:creator>The Koi Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 03:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> 
A very interesting article!  I agree with you that &quot;... if France&#8217;s leaders of tomorrow can bring themselves to adapt to the new leadership style(s) born of listening, sensing and helping interdependent systems respond to the ongoing rapid changes we face today, then France has a lot of potential with which to work with regard to the promise(s) of Enterprise 2.0.&quot; 
 
However it might be a very long time before that happens. A nation&#039;s attitude, way of life, culture, etc., can&#039;t and will not change unless that nation is forced (by outside influences beyond their control) to either change or die.  In my opinion, France is at a state where its&#039; society is content with what they have; technology, culture, lifestyle, etc,.  They don&#039;t see the need to be the top dog.  They don&#039;t need to prove that they&#039;re the best. 
 
America is different and unique due to it&#039;s cultural belief, ideals and values that anyone can be an elite (with all rights and privileges, whatever that may be) if they work hard enough, are smart enough, rich enough, etc.. therefore competition (greed, pride, bragging rights, etc...) will always prompt them to do more, be more.   
 
Examples: Obama, Bill Gates, the Kennedys, etc.. 
 
Another good example is Japan.  After WWII, Japan as a nation, forced itself to change.  It has to or it would have become just another third world country.  Honda, Toyota, Sony, Samsung, etc... need I say more? 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting article!  I agree with you that &quot;&#8230; if France&rsquo;s leaders of tomorrow can bring themselves to adapt to the new leadership style(s) born of listening, sensing and helping interdependent systems respond to the ongoing rapid changes we face today, then France has a lot of potential with which to work with regard to the promise(s) of Enterprise 2.0.&quot; </p>
<p>However it might be a very long time before that happens. A nation&#039;s attitude, way of life, culture, etc., can&#039;t and will not change unless that nation is forced (by outside influences beyond their control) to either change or die.  In my opinion, France is at a state where its&#039; society is content with what they have; technology, culture, lifestyle, etc,.  They don&#039;t see the need to be the top dog.  They don&#039;t need to prove that they&#039;re the best. </p>
<p>America is different and unique due to it&#039;s cultural belief, ideals and values that anyone can be an elite (with all rights and privileges, whatever that may be) if they work hard enough, are smart enough, rich enough, etc.. therefore competition (greed, pride, bragging rights, etc&#8230;) will always prompt them to do more, be more.   </p>
<p>Examples: Obama, Bill Gates, the Kennedys, etc.. </p>
<p>Another good example is Japan.  After WWII, Japan as a nation, forced itself to change.  It has to or it would have become just another third world country.  Honda, Toyota, Sony, Samsung, etc&#8230; need I say more?</p>
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		<title>By: Startup Academy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Participation de la soci&#233;t&#233; Personall</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/11/16/enterprise-20-frances-excellent-chances/comment-page-1/#comment-193919</link>
		<dc:creator>Startup Academy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Participation de la soci&#233;t&#233; Personall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Atélier Numérique sur BFM : <a href="http://www.atelier.fr/-37362-.html?xtor=AD-229" rel="nofollow">http://www.atelier.fr/-37362-.html?xtor=AD-229</a> Fastforward Blog : <a href="http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/11/16/enterprise-20-frances-excellent-chances/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/11/16/enterprise-20-frances-excellent-chances/</a>  Quels sont vos concurrents?  Les portails d&#8217;entreprise tels que les équivalents des [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mickael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a culture that enjoys examining and discussing issues&quot;.
I agree, but It&#039;s as a positive as a negative point. 
We love it, and taking decisions can be difficult in France, debates often never stop ! 
In my point of you, we need a bit of &quot;US and UK operational efficiency&quot; as Herve said.

Great article thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a culture that enjoys examining and discussing issues&#8221;.<br />
I agree, but It&#8217;s as a positive as a negative point.<br />
We love it, and taking decisions can be difficult in France, debates often never stop !<br />
In my point of you, we need a bit of &#8220;US and UK operational efficiency&#8221; as Herve said.</p>
<p>Great article thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/11/16/enterprise-20-frances-excellent-chances/comment-page-1/#comment-192384</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Herve.

Of course I do not know well the historic path and mental models underneath French organizations, although with yours and others help I am learning fast.

I suspect that you are (quite) correct.  

I also think ... or hope ...  that the above blog post contains enough caveats and mere opinion that it can be seen just as an encouragement.  But if there are some of the important changes made, or desired, then what I was trying to say is that it is my general impression, from a small amount of familiarity with some aspects of French culture etc.  that there is some interesting potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Herve.</p>
<p>Of course I do not know well the historic path and mental models underneath French organizations, although with yours and others help I am learning fast.</p>
<p>I suspect that you are (quite) correct.  </p>
<p>I also think &#8230; or hope &#8230;  that the above blog post contains enough caveats and mere opinion that it can be seen just as an encouragement.  But if there are some of the important changes made, or desired, then what I was trying to say is that it is my general impression, from a small amount of familiarity with some aspects of French culture etc.  that there is some interesting potential.</p>
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		<title>By: Herve Kabla</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/11/16/enterprise-20-frances-excellent-chances/comment-page-1/#comment-191927</link>
		<dc:creator>Herve Kabla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, you had the chance to meet with great people this week. Unfortunately, France&#039;s industrial  organization has lead to what Thomas Philippon - a french teacher at the Stern School of Business - calls &quot;Le Capitalisme d&#039;Heritier&quot; (cf. http://www.amazon.fr/Capitalisme-dhéritiers-crise-française-travail/dp/2020917637). Having experienced it for more about 20 years, I think it will take a large amount of Carlos Diaz and Bertrand Duperrin to have France reach US and UK operational efficiency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, you had the chance to meet with great people this week. Unfortunately, France&#8217;s industrial  organization has lead to what Thomas Philippon &#8211; a french teacher at the Stern School of Business &#8211; calls &#8220;Le Capitalisme d&#8217;Heritier&#8221; (cf. <a href="http://www.amazon.fr/Capitalisme-dhéritiers-crise-française-travail/dp/2020917637)" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.fr/Capitalisme-dhéritiers-crise-française-travail/dp/2020917637)</a>. Having experienced it for more about 20 years, I think it will take a large amount of Carlos Diaz and Bertrand Duperrin to have France reach US and UK operational efficiency.</p>
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