Listening To and Talking With Your Current and Potential Customers – SNCF
by Jon Husband
During a recent business trip to France, I met with a range of business people interested in and involved with early Web 2.0 initiatives in the corporate arena. There’s a lot of interest in the area (as there is in North America) and it seems to be growing rapidly.
Publicis (the advertising giant) has a consulting arm specializing in corporate-things-digital, and has been involved in helping some companies roll up their collective sleeves and go beyond using the Web to display information on a corporate web site. I had the good luck to meet with Martin Menu (Community / Networking Manager at Publicis Consultants) and Stanislas Magniant (his colleague at that time and now with Linkfluence, purveyors of webpulse and visualisations of networked conversations on the web, in Washington, D.C.).
Martin and Stan introduced me to, and helped me understand, an interesting case study involving bringing a large and somewhat monolithic quasi-governmental organization (SNCF, the French national rail transportation company) into the 21st Century in terms of interaction with and listening to customers on the Web.
I also remember reading a Reuters or AP feed to the Globe and Mail a couple of years back in which Maurice Levy, Chairman and CEO of Publicis, clearly stated that he and his colleagues wholeheartedly believed that digital and the Web were the future. He mentioned in the news piece that Publicis would be giving priority to learning more about Web 2.0 and incorporating a range of the elements into its offerings and practices.
SNCF’s web site is the largest e-commerce site in France. The following graph gives you a sense of it’s presence on line and the amount of conversational activity it stimulates.
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In the last several years it has gone about updating it’s web site to reflect a growing range of content and opportunities for customers to communicate / interact with the company. Publicis is the digital branding / communications consulting agency that has helped it design and build these sites.
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2006 SNCF Site
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2007 SNCF Site
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The changes year over year reflect the increasing opportunities and demand for interaction, and in 2008 SNCF decided to test, in a pilot project, the much-ballyhooed listening to and speaking with customers with a new site, a section of which (at the URL http://debats.sncf.com) carries the tag line “Talk To Us” (or “Speak With Us”).
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2008 SNCF Site
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The growing awareness of the need for and utility of hosting conversations with customers led SNCF to realize that it “is a company that people talk about a lot on the Web without it being able to answer the criticisms“. They decided they wanted to explore “how can we create the conditions for dialogue with Web users?”
SNCF, with the help of Publicis, decided to take advantage of the launch of the newest version of the site to create an interactive space to stimulate and engage in conversation with (current and potential) customers who use the web site.
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2008 “Talk With Us”
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Creating this interactive and participative space involved the following steps:
- SNCF recruited voluntary spokespeople within their staff
- Web users ask the spokespeople their questions about the SNCF
- They are able to vote and comment on other people’s questions
- Every day, the “spokespeople” answer the questions elected by the Web users
Thus SNCF and the customer participants on the Web site co-create the content of this space. From what I learned in talking with Stan and Martin, an important additional effect has been the feedback from customers working its way back into some of SNCF’s core business processes. Are you surprised ? I’m not.
The short-term results of the pilot project seem to speak for themselves:
- 76,486 visits in a couple of months
- An average of 2,000 visits a day
- 331,606 pages seen
- Average time spent on the platform is 2.30 minutes
- A community of 1,560 users
- 1,210 questions and 233 answers
Via debats.sncf.com customers asked questions mainly about services and pricing, and provided a wide range of feedback, while SNCF through its staff asked questions in order to solicit customers’ advice and better understand what kinds of new features and services customers were wanting or looking for.
It also became the de facto source for current information, such as:
Jan. 24 strikes announced
- Users worried about the impact on their daily journey
- Seeking for information on Google
Opinion & Debate is users’ first choice
- Opinion & Debate at the 1st rank of Google query
- Daily updated content
- Free referencing campaign
A key source of official information from and about SNCF
- Web users go to the platform
- Find answers
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All in all, the pilot project was deemed successful enough to make it a permanent feature of the SNCF web site.
Now SNCF can legitimately state that it is a company that has experienced, appreciated and will continue to learn from being in dynamic interaction with its current and potential customers … thanks to the Web.
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