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Susan ScrupskiMay 20th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

Awesome post. You have been able to articulate so much of what I've been thinking, experiencing for the past year or so. Very much looking forward to your contribution here. Hope I see you at Enterprise 2.0 in Boston.

Chris AlmondMay 20th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

Yes – an awesome post. I had the pleasure of reading it before it disappeared from the site.

Chris AlmondMay 21st, 2009 at 3:19 am

Ok this blog entry is invisible when loading in Firefox on Linux, but is visible when loading in Firefox on Windows. Go figure! I have commented on this post in depth here: http://youturn.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/enterpris...

Bill OdellMay 21st, 2009 at 1:36 pm

Fantastic post Yuri. You might have made the case for why many think E2.0 is in the trough of disillusionment. At Helpstream we are trying hard to combat the obtuse promise of "facebook for the enterprise" by attacking a very specific business problem – customer service. From the ground up designed our solution to map to customer support processes. And the ROI our customers experience as a result is tied to real hard dollar savings vs soft dollar productivity. Great post!

Yuri AlkinMay 22nd, 2009 at 1:49 am

Thanks everyone for the feedback – here, on other blogs and on Twitter. Honestly, I didn’t expect the message to resonate so strongly and it’s great to hear such encouraging words coming from the industry experts.

Susan — see you in Boston.

Yuri AlkinMay 22nd, 2009 at 1:50 am

Bill – I didn’t know about Helpstream; from I see on your site you’re doing exactly what I’ve advocated in the post, i.e. making a critical, well defined business function more efficient though better people connections. Great company name, btw.

Bill OdellMay 22nd, 2009 at 1:14 pm

Thanks Yuri. Happy to tell you more about Helpstream anytime. Just give me a holler.

yurialMay 22nd, 2009 at 2:40 pm

Chris – a great post, mapping E2.0 situation of the hype model and POST (which is in particular a good framework that can help avoiding a “now what?” moment).
As for E2.0 entering through of disillusionment, I agree that the signs are there, but hope the situation is a bit brighter (which may sound surprising given the tone of my post). Gartner’s hype model is technology focused, while to me E2.0 is a state of business, enabled by technology. Although what’s been happening with E2.0 resembles “disillusionment” stages for other tech ideas (e.g. SOA), in essence it’s something different. E2.0 is the business world’s attempt to catch up with the global transformation of society. That’s why you may hear an exec saying things like “my kids live on Facebook; we’ve got to try this thing inside”. The change is inevitable, and its scale is huge. It will happen eventually – whether it’s called E2.0 or not. And I think it still remains a great opportunity for all players in the space. So, it’s all about being conscious of the side effects that purely technology focused efforts can create.

Ross FubiniMay 22nd, 2009 at 8:57 pm

Awesome blog entry. I agree in the premises you've captured in your post – technology is not enough: you need people to care and people care about things that have real value within companies (e.g. do their job faster, get better results, make their job fun).

I think this hypothesis is correct, but is going to lead to two types of compelling E2.0 applications.

One type, are enterprise applications with a social twist (Helpstream is a fine example, as is Oracle's definition of Social CRM). These are business system with existing ROI arguments, but with "social" software added. The users will be basically the same as with existing system, but the applications will be more engaging, more useful, or simply cheaper (especially if they are SaaS based).

My belief is there is a second kind of application where the use of social software is going to be more akin to the revolutions of Email and IM.

This is a broad collaboration application based on an enterprise social network used by everyone in the company and is akin to Outlook in it's value to business. A user will sit down each morning and have 10 emails in Outlook rather than 40. Then they will look at their social system for a stream of the events (crossing people and system) telling them what's happening across the business. It will connect everyone in company (not specific roles), across geographies, and provide for common communication space (different from the private communication of email and IM).

I'm biased because my company, CubeTree (http://www.cubetree.com), is of this ilk. But to be transparent in my thinking, it's super unclear we are going to be *that* social system for companies 2-3 years from now (though of course I hope we will). What I do think is clear is these systems will exist for business users just as they do for consumers now.

Ross Fubini, Co-Founder of CubeTree
@fubini

Ethan YarbroughMay 22nd, 2009 at 9:57 pm

Great job, Yuri. So much good advice in this it's hard to know what to respond to first. I'll focus on the key takeaways for me, there are two above all the rest. 1) Businesses have to be 2.0 in spirit and behavior before the technology tools are introduced. The tools will not make a company 2.0 — they enhance, they facilitate, but the cultural transformation does not begin with the technology. 2) Let the need lead — that is, build to address a specific, identifiable business need or problem. As you point out, ROI is easier to measure that way and I would add ROI is easier to achive that way as well. People need to experience the benefit of an E2.0 tool — not just see it, not just understand it intellectually, they need to FEEL it. Delivering people from a constant pain point lets them experience the benefit tangibly, that encourages adoption, that delivers ROI. Thanks for sharing your ideas. I'll be in Boston for the E2.0 conf. perhaps I'll see you there.

SébastienMay 25th, 2009 at 9:12 am

Hello Yuri and thank you very much. This is a great post. I like reading posts about the disillusionment of E2.0 because at last we can stop promising the moon to customers and actually start creating some sustainable value! Btw. I'm working at YoolinkPro.com, a social software helping people to find, share and access information for their business-as-usual.

I think you’re right the industry is currently too much on the “Product side” of the Delta model. But there is also something else. I really enjoyed that sentence: "No one (okay, almost no one) expects that buying a word processor can turn him into a great writer. Yet somehow it’s almost widely assumed that deploying tools labelled E2.0 would turn an organization into an E2.0 business." I think it is the core problem here. E2.0 is mostly about information flows. About exchanging knowledge and content. What most organization did not see on the first place is that it requires…real exchanges of information!
For many organizations, information is power and information flows are a consequence of internal hierarchy/relationships. Potential implementation of E2.0 scares many managers and information specialists off because they fear information is not going to transit through them anymore and they will end up isolated. Or they will face major information leaks. I make the situation a little extreme but that's a situation we often face. So natural consequence, they block the implementation no matter what it could actually bring to the company.
But Internet changed the way we deal with information. Information and knowledge is now mostly on-line and the question is no more how do I control this info (since it is available on-line to everyone) but how do I make the best out of it? How do I share it with the right person to drive up productivity? E2.0 software actually helps people to adapt to a situation that ALREADY changed! And that’s also where it is difficult for the industry right now: it takes some time for people to accept a deep shift in the way they work, to adapt and to take the right tools to work in this new environment. So there is naturally an education time. We are right in the middle of it now I fear…

Jon HusbandMay 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

Great post !

There's a backlash building for sure, both in the use of social media for external marketing purposes and against E2.0.

I think you'll find people around who have been cautioning against, or forecasting this (as sebastien notes directly above, "it takes time to accept a deep shift" etc/).

There has been much verbal doodling over the past couple of years about the changes in org culture the need to accompany the start and sustained use of E 2.0 / social computing, and of course you are wise to bring home with impact the point of focusing on business functions and business uses, as opposed to just (figuratively) tossing some toys in the cages and letting people have at it.

While there has been much criticism of traditional management philosophy and techniques being an obstacle (I would be one of those who has criticized much), I think it's also fair to say that I have never denied or opposed the need for intelligent management of engaging with and using social computing. In fact, I'd say that most leaders and managers entering into and operating in an E2.0 environment sharpens the game</b? for them .. it brings all those leadership development / manager as a coach / organizational development issues and principles into play as never before. It is, in my opinion, for the most part a complicated and demanding environment in which to operate.

It's tough to maintain a focus on business functions and issues and yet "give up control" in order to gain more traction and effective performance.

Jon HusbandMay 26th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

Oops, sorry for the open tag.

yurialMay 26th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

Thanks, Ethan. Yes, I completely agree – addressing business pain points through E2.0 tools will deliver measureable ROI. The trick is to identify the right metrics to measure. It’s important to concentrate on should on value-focused metrics, not on the process-focused ones (and in some case this will take an effort). See you at the conference.

yurialMay 26th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

Jon, Sébastien – you’re spot on. Organizational factors play a huge role in E2.0 adoption (this is what I was alluding to in the post’s last paragraph). Even the best E2.0 software that solves real business needs and creates true value may fall flat on its face if key people inside an org don’t want it to get adopted. Like any major transformation, E2.0 is disruptive and threatening to those whose power built on the existing processes. Any org/person who gets internal capital from controlling the flow of information may feel threatened by tools built on the idea of sharing. That said, some of them will soon realize that E2.0 offers news ways to build that internal capital. It’s the same trend we’ve been observing on the internet and in every information-focused industry (e.g. news and publishing).

Jon HusbandMay 26th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

Yurial …

It’s the same trend we’ve been observing on the internet and in every information-focused industry (e.g. news and publishing).

Yup, it's been building for a few years now, and in some form or another is likely to affect most organizations / enterprises over time (or so says your colleague Dan Rasmus in his book "Listening To The Future").

(disclosure: I'm one of those "People in the technology world love creating new words. In fact, they are responsible for the most of the recent English language growth. Be it telephone, internet or crowdsourcing there’s always a new technology behind the new term"

… with respect to the effects of hyperlinks and information / knowledge exchange on the traditional dynamics of hierarchy in organizations ;-)

dan_pontefractMay 26th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

Time and time again, we in the 'tech space' tend to think and position the tools first, prior to thinking through the process or people requirements.

Bright shiny objects are littered throughout organizations from a technology perspective, because due diligence (and prudence) was never carried out from an organizational process & people perspective first.

This article is dated (1997) but it always reminds me to think about the process and people first, then the tool. (and I am a 'learning' guy, so I tend to think about people first, then process, then technology)

http://www.emeraldinsight.com/Insight/ViewContent...

McAfee has great points, great research, great stories, and an interesting angle most of the time. I couch his views, however, with the people/process mantra when interpreting his results and findings.

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