Comments on: Crowdsourcing for Employee, Customer and Stakeholder Engagement http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2009/08/13/crowdsourcing-for-employee-customer-and-stakeholder-engagement/ Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:28:22 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jon Husband http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2009/08/13/crowdsourcing-for-employee-customer-and-stakeholder-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-237559 Jon Husband Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:22:35 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/?p=3437#comment-237559 Glenn .. thanks for stopping by, and yes, I will clarify ... but I'll need some time (as in a day or so) to come back here with the reply, as I am tied up with several must-do things today. But for right now, I think your assessment that <i>If the concepts of social contagion are perceived as being similar to participatory OD methodologies, then it seems to me something is being lost. </i> is correct, but I honestly do not think I was trying to say that the principles of social contagion are similar to the principles of participatory OD methodologies. I will come back to this .. just can't elaborate right now because of demands on my time. Glenn .. thanks for stopping by, and yes, I will clarify … but I’ll need some time (as in a day or so) to come back here with the reply, as I am tied up with several must-do things today.

But for right now, I think your assessment that If the concepts of social contagion are perceived as being similar to participatory OD methodologies, then it seems to me something is being lost. is correct, but I honestly do not think I was trying to say that the principles of social contagion are similar to the principles of participatory OD methodologies.

I will come back to this .. just can’t elaborate right now because of demands on my time.

]]> By: Glenn Allen http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2009/08/13/crowdsourcing-for-employee-customer-and-stakeholder-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-237545 Glenn Allen Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:55:56 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/?p=3437#comment-237545 Jon: I think I might be missing the point here. The Wisdom of Crowds seem less about "aggregating ideas and opinions" and more about the ways in which ideas, movements, ideologies, innovations, and, yes, changes spread through crowds much as a virus spreads from host to host. If the concepts of social contagion are perceived as being similar to participatory OD methodologies, then it seems to me something is being lost. Could you clarify? Glenn Jon:

I think I might be missing the point here. The Wisdom of Crowds seem less about “aggregating ideas and opinions” and more about the ways in which ideas, movements, ideologies, innovations, and, yes, changes spread through crowds much as a virus spreads from host to host. If the concepts of social contagion are perceived as being similar to participatory OD methodologies, then it seems to me something is being lost. Could you clarify?

Glenn

]]> By: Jon Husband http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2009/08/13/crowdsourcing-for-employee-customer-and-stakeholder-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-237266 Jon Husband Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:08:41 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/?p=3437#comment-237266 What I was trying to get at is the seemingly-evident need in today's interconnected environment for leaders to learn how to listen more ... which remains a substantive issue along with (and often related to) any given organization's culture. You know as well as or better than me that one of the toughest aspects of "selling" OS back a decade or more ago was the reluctance / resistance of leaders (and managers) to 'let go' into that open space. That remains a significant issue today, although clearly the use of open space (and hybrids) has blossomed around the world as processes for group input based on both individual and group "voice". The movement associated with "unconferences" has only helped spread that way or getting individuals engaged together to identify and explore whatever is asked and whatever comes up. What I was trying to get at is the seemingly-evident need in today’s interconnected environment for leaders to learn how to listen more … which remains a substantive issue along with (and often related to) any given organization’s culture.

You know as well as or better than me that one of the toughest aspects of “selling” OS back a decade or more ago was the reluctance / resistance of leaders (and managers) to ‘let go’ into that open space. That remains a significant issue today, although clearly the use of open space (and hybrids) has blossomed around the world as processes for group input based on both individual and group “voice”. The movement associated with “unconferences” has only helped spread that way or getting individuals engaged together to identify and explore whatever is asked and whatever comes up.

]]> By: Jon Husband http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2009/08/13/crowdsourcing-for-employee-customer-and-stakeholder-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-237262 Jon Husband Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:02:44 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/?p=3437#comment-237262 Thanks, Larry .. yes, you are right, of course. I used to facilitate open space events back in the mid-90's (I've met you a couple of times, you may not remember), and have often written for the need and / or utility of bringing OD principles and processes into understanding and working with the flows of human activities in online social networks. Open space is a natural ... and crowdsourcing can also be seen as something as familiar (and maybe banal ?) as an online suggestion box (suggestion boxes being something that stems from the quality-of-life era in the history of OD). High-touch for high-tech .. ;-) Thanks, Larry .. yes, you are right, of course. I used to facilitate open space events back in the mid-90’s (I’ve met you a couple of times, you may not remember), and have often written for the need and / or utility of bringing OD principles and processes into understanding and working with the flows of human activities in online social networks.

Open space is a natural … and crowdsourcing can also be seen as something as familiar (and maybe banal ?) as an online suggestion box (suggestion boxes being something that stems from the quality-of-life era in the history of OD).

High-touch for high-tech .. ;-)

]]> By: Larry Peterson http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2009/08/13/crowdsourcing-for-employee-customer-and-stakeholder-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-237233 Larry Peterson Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:27:57 +0000 http://www.fastforwardblog.com/?p=3437#comment-237233 Open Space Technology is an approach to doing just this based on similar assumptions, but fully recognizing the natural self-organizing processes of crowds. Open Space Technology is an approach to doing just this based on similar assumptions, but fully recognizing the natural self-organizing processes of crowds.

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