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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2010/01/26/exploring-the-hr-management-framework-for-enterprise-2-0/comment-page-2/#comment-271055</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dan ...

Yes, that might be one of the elements.  As you no doubt know as well as me, it depends (consultant-speak ;-)  on what the purpose and desired results are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dan &#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, that might be one of the elements.  As you no doubt know as well as me, it depends (consultant-speak <img src='http://www.fastforwardblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   on what the purpose and desired results are.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Pontefract</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Pontefract</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ie. &#039;manage by blogging around;? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ie. &#8216;manage by blogging around;? <img src='http://www.fastforwardblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2010/01/26/exploring-the-hr-management-framework-for-enterprise-2-0/comment-page-2/#comment-270916</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 07:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

You&#039;ve given us much to think about (but I think most of us commenting have been thinking about these things for some time now!).

A few reactions and additions - hopefully thoughtful ones... Regarding employee orientation, I think the benefit of the social networks inside organizations can help not only new colleagues but also those moving around to new projects and new areas within the company. I think there is huge productivity lift to be gained when those folks step into something new. There&#039;s usually very little transition time while portfolios change hands. I&#039;ve seen managers and employees alike tripping about trying to learn the lay of their new-ish land. Imagine the possibilities!

This connects beautifully to role profiles, I think. I know enough about the world of compensation to know that I don&#039;t enough to suggest fixes that won&#039;t fail here. But what I think role profiles might do is facilitate the nimble changes to employee&#039;s responsibilities that are required in an adaptive corporation. In teams I&#039;ve worked with, these changes aren&#039;t significant enough to cause big bumps in job grades, so a more broadly written role profile would not require constant updating amongst those changes. Broader role profiles = more nimble movement to shifting projects or portfolios = less time on renegotiating the WIIFM question. Add to that the above web squared internal social networks and we have a winner, I think.

My comments are starting to rival your post&#039;s length, so one final penny. Performance management... I tossed an idea to my colleagues &quot;what if we let our team choose their manager? We&#039;re a four person management team... (Not my original idea - I can&#039;t recall where I read that one.) But wouldn&#039;t that tip the scales back to the adult-adult relationship that you&#039;ve brought up before?    

We have such a unique opportunity in these wirearchicial times to truly revolutionize exactly what it is that HR professionals do, how we do it, and the impact to be had. Because so far, when noodling on her company&#039;s glorious business and community accomplishments, no CEO has said in their acceptance speech, with heartfelt tears in her eyes &quot;none of this would have been possible without our linchpins - our HR pros.&quot;  Or has she? I&#039;ll join Jon in inviting that leader CEO to the discussion. Til then, we must be the change - experiment, fail, share, learn. 

PS apologies for the twist on wirerachy :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve given us much to think about (but I think most of us commenting have been thinking about these things for some time now!).</p>
<p>A few reactions and additions &#8211; hopefully thoughtful ones&#8230; Regarding employee orientation, I think the benefit of the social networks inside organizations can help not only new colleagues but also those moving around to new projects and new areas within the company. I think there is huge productivity lift to be gained when those folks step into something new. There&#8217;s usually very little transition time while portfolios change hands. I&#8217;ve seen managers and employees alike tripping about trying to learn the lay of their new-ish land. Imagine the possibilities!</p>
<p>This connects beautifully to role profiles, I think. I know enough about the world of compensation to know that I don&#8217;t enough to suggest fixes that won&#8217;t fail here. But what I think role profiles might do is facilitate the nimble changes to employee&#8217;s responsibilities that are required in an adaptive corporation. In teams I&#8217;ve worked with, these changes aren&#8217;t significant enough to cause big bumps in job grades, so a more broadly written role profile would not require constant updating amongst those changes. Broader role profiles = more nimble movement to shifting projects or portfolios = less time on renegotiating the WIIFM question. Add to that the above web squared internal social networks and we have a winner, I think.</p>
<p>My comments are starting to rival your post&#8217;s length, so one final penny. Performance management&#8230; I tossed an idea to my colleagues &#8220;what if we let our team choose their manager? We&#8217;re a four person management team&#8230; (Not my original idea &#8211; I can&#8217;t recall where I read that one.) But wouldn&#8217;t that tip the scales back to the adult-adult relationship that you&#8217;ve brought up before?    </p>
<p>We have such a unique opportunity in these wirearchicial times to truly revolutionize exactly what it is that HR professionals do, how we do it, and the impact to be had. Because so far, when noodling on her company&#8217;s glorious business and community accomplishments, no CEO has said in their acceptance speech, with heartfelt tears in her eyes &#8220;none of this would have been possible without our linchpins &#8211; our HR pros.&#8221;  Or has she? I&#8217;ll join Jon in inviting that leader CEO to the discussion. Til then, we must be the change &#8211; experiment, fail, share, learn. </p>
<p>PS apologies for the twist on wirerachy <img src='http://www.fastforwardblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nilofer Merchant</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2010/01/26/exploring-the-hr-management-framework-for-enterprise-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-270776</link>
		<dc:creator>Nilofer Merchant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d love to see a conference on this topic you&#039;ve raised with threads that follow your categories from recruitment to culture, so that we at it the issues holistically. and a conference more focused on discussion than on talking. i could imagine 100+ thought leaders including McAfee, Kevin Wheeler, Terri Griffith, etc who can then all go back and apply that thinking in their work. No book or whatever is going to solve the problems you name that we all know are BIG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d love to see a conference on this topic you&#8217;ve raised with threads that follow your categories from recruitment to culture, so that we at it the issues holistically. and a conference more focused on discussion than on talking. i could imagine 100+ thought leaders including McAfee, Kevin Wheeler, Terri Griffith, etc who can then all go back and apply that thinking in their work. No book or whatever is going to solve the problems you name that we all know are BIG.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2010/01/26/exploring-the-hr-management-framework-for-enterprise-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-270693</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 07:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart ... yes.  Thanks for the useful enhancement.   

Your focusing on &lt;i&gt;practitioners&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;facilitation&lt;/i&gt; as critical organizational learning and effectiveness tools is spot-on, and is a quicker and easier way of saying much the same thing as I have tried to when I have written about core OD principles presenting an effective framework for &#039;managing&#039; in conditions of interconnected flows of information and knowledge (in response to Hamel&#039;s call for innovation in management practice).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart &#8230; yes.  Thanks for the useful enhancement.   </p>
<p>Your focusing on <i>practitioners</i> and <i>facilitation</i> as critical organizational learning and effectiveness tools is spot-on, and is a quicker and easier way of saying much the same thing as I have tried to when I have written about core OD principles presenting an effective framework for &#8216;managing&#8217; in conditions of interconnected flows of information and knowledge (in response to Hamel&#8217;s call for innovation in management practice).</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Henshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Henshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 07:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, Great post and agenda for where you are going or is that headed? Two words that are favorites of mine that I&#039;d like to have seen early in the piece referencing the type of talent. One is &quot;practitioners&quot; eg recognizing those that are experts and the importance of their practice to the organization. Second &quot;facilitator&quot; / facilitation. It&#039;s quickly skirted around in most organizations. Many managers are lousy facilitators. Yet good facilitation is likely to break down the barriers / reduce friction and get the organization moving. Alas too often organizations want to bring these skills in from the outside rather than grow them from within. Internally... the practice experts... ask better questions.... seek new learning... practitioners are not just about improvement... Then networking / facilitation is also critical. This doesn&#039;t just have to be facilitating a group... or an online forum it is about an organization that knows how to listen, self-organize, prototype etc... It&#039;s the way to creating the 2.0 environment as a safer one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, Great post and agenda for where you are going or is that headed? Two words that are favorites of mine that I&#8217;d like to have seen early in the piece referencing the type of talent. One is &#8220;practitioners&#8221; eg recognizing those that are experts and the importance of their practice to the organization. Second &#8220;facilitator&#8221; / facilitation. It&#8217;s quickly skirted around in most organizations. Many managers are lousy facilitators. Yet good facilitation is likely to break down the barriers / reduce friction and get the organization moving. Alas too often organizations want to bring these skills in from the outside rather than grow them from within. Internally&#8230; the practice experts&#8230; ask better questions&#8230;. seek new learning&#8230; practitioners are not just about improvement&#8230; Then networking / facilitation is also critical. This doesn&#8217;t just have to be facilitating a group&#8230; or an online forum it is about an organization that knows how to listen, self-organize, prototype etc&#8230; It&#8217;s the way to creating the 2.0 environment as a safer one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2010/01/26/exploring-the-hr-management-framework-for-enterprise-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-270662</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan .. you are absolutely right, and thanks for the reminder.

And in turn ... an enterprise can have the bestest Leadership Philosophy ever conceived and articulated, &lt;b&gt;and&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;ve facilitated more than enough sessions in my career to know that what really matters to the employees&#039; beliefs and actions that make up an organization&#039;s culture ... is that the leaders &lt;b&gt;walk. their. talk.&lt;/b&gt;   

Not to be too trite ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan .. you are absolutely right, and thanks for the reminder.</p>
<p>And in turn &#8230; an enterprise can have the bestest Leadership Philosophy ever conceived and articulated, <b>and</b> I&#8217;ve facilitated more than enough sessions in my career to know that what really matters to the employees&#8217; beliefs and actions that make up an organization&#8217;s culture &#8230; is that the leaders <b>walk. their. talk.</b>   </p>
<p>Not to be too trite <img src='http://www.fastforwardblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dan Pontefract</title>
		<link>http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2010/01/26/exploring-the-hr-management-framework-for-enterprise-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-270597</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Pontefract</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; &lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;The culture of an enterprise is an all-important aspect of why and how performance management is used.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d extend your point slightly to include not only performance management, but your other categories in their entirety.

I don&#039;t believe there is a single facet of the &quot;2.0&quot; wave to be affected by culture. In fact, it&#039;s the culture itself that is going to help shape the success of the 2.0 way of thinking and operating.

A culture stuck in fiefdoms and silos might never achieve an updated HR Framework in E2.0 unless they, perhaps, update their Leadership Philosophy to be more open, transparent, connected and collaborative.</description>
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<blockquote cite="">The culture of an enterprise is an all-important aspect of why and how performance management is used.</p></blockquote>
<p></i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d extend your point slightly to include not only performance management, but your other categories in their entirety.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe there is a single facet of the &#8220;2.0&#8243; wave to be affected by culture. In fact, it&#8217;s the culture itself that is going to help shape the success of the 2.0 way of thinking and operating.</p>
<p>A culture stuck in fiefdoms and silos might never achieve an updated HR Framework in E2.0 unless they, perhaps, update their Leadership Philosophy to be more open, transparent, connected and collaborative.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Paterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Paterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bang on Jon
The whole field has to be reinvented - HR and IT the barriers for adapting your organization - 
HR maybe worse - fun to come</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bang on Jon<br />
The whole field has to be reinvented &#8211; HR and IT the barriers for adapting your organization &#8211;<br />
HR maybe worse &#8211; fun to come</p>
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